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Dead Loss
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Posted - 2012.04.03 10:03:00 -
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Our little pirate corp recently war dec'd 6 industrial corps.
The idea being that we want to ask them for a generous donation to our corporate fund in exchange for letting them mine happily.
Now, each of these corps have about 20 to 40 members. We have been observing all of them for a while, they have little tonp pvp capabilities except for a few guys who maybe do lvl 4 missions so they might have a small capacity at firepower.
They mine ice for the most of them. They go around in small fleets or Orca + Hulks/Mackinaws.
They are absolutely careless, some of them usually hang around the dock of the station for whole minutes in gangs of exhumers (except they hand around at 5-6 km from docking range, not at 0).
Now, we sent each of them a 24 hour notice, explaining that if we received a donation of 500 mil, we would not implement the war dec which was voted on and only waiting to be implemented.
After 48 hours no response, but they have not modified (not a single of the corps) their way of doing things. Now the war dec has been launched and will enter into full force in less than 8 hours.
They will loose billions in hulks, orcas, etc. And as far as I can see, they have made no contact with merc corps as we have not been wardecced and their members have not increased.
So why would you not pay in such case ? Why would you assume that you are safe keeping on doing what you do carelessly ? I don't understand the concept ... knowing that you will loose much more than the 500 million isk donation we request.
Does anyone have opinions on this ? Experience maybe and explanations as to why they do this ? |

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Posted - 2012.04.03 10:39:00 -
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I know about the docking thing until we get bored of it, but considering it costs us around 4 mil a week to wardec them, we can keep the wardec going for ever. Now hey might be bold enough to go mine when there are no reds in local, but we could have neutrals watching them.
BUT, most importantly, how much will it cost them to stay docked ? I am talking about opportunity costs. These guys mine a lot. They do only that (they are not bots though). Stop them from doing that for two weeks, I am guessing they will loose much more than 500 mil by not being able to do business. |

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Posted - 2012.04.03 10:40:00 -
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Klown Walk wrote:What stops you from doing it again once they pay?
Bad for business not to. We tend to believe in honouring our agreements. |

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Posted - 2012.04.03 10:57:00 -
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All right, well we'll see where it goes once the war dec goes active. I'll update here just fo details if I have questions.
But in regards to honour, we don't fraternize with other pirates so we would not tell others to war dec them, and we would honour the ransom. I guess this is maybe becoming rare these days. |

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Posted - 2012.04.03 16:01:00 -
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FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:I just did three minutes worth of intel work on your corp. This is what I found:
You have just nine members. Of those, only 5 have any posted combat history at all. Only one of those 5 has a confirmed kill, and you got on that killmail by providing a HIC bubble and applying precisely zero damage. The few decent kills on your corp's killboards are by ex-members.
You're barely a threat to a single miner.
Well, there's that but then again there is context.
We are all RL friends, and we have had a really tough time getting organized because of our respective jobs etc.
The fact is that I am the one who played Eve, and I signed all of them up through the Xmas 60 day trial thing. They all love it, but as a small group it has been hard for me to provide them content.
We set up a POS in low sec for a while, but it was hard for us to connect at the same time, so the little amount of operations we attempted failed miserably because of lack of people in the gang.
Now, I think this high sec war dec thing might give a complete different result, and it offers a slightly safer environment for them to learn. Considering they are all brand new players with very low SP.
So, on paper yes our results haven't been good, but we just need to find some active content to relate to. Initially my friends were not very eager to jump into the game straight by doing low sec or null sec, they followed me anyway but it was a pretty big mistake on my part.
This might be what we need, and I think our killboard will soon reflect that, with the blood of all those industrial corps.
But that's just my analysis. Others are welcome to their opinions. |

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Posted - 2012.04.03 17:28:00 -
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Alexandra Delarge wrote:I would pay your ransom if you war decced my corp.
Feels good bro. |

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Posted - 2012.04.03 19:08:00 -
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Lady Ayeipsia wrote:Dead Loss wrote:Alexandra Delarge wrote:I would pay your ransom if you war decced my corp. Feels good bro. It's a trap!
Oh noes !!! |
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